Meet the Press: Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson

Interview

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1998, my first Senate confirmation hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee, was chaired by 96-year-old Strom Thurmond.

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He worked entirely off of index cards. And when he wandered off the index card everybody in the room would hold their breath. The reality was he was carried by his staff and by his Senate colleagues in a different time and place. Now, in the Senate and the White House there are just far too many cameras or far too many iPhones, and it's difficult to hide your age.

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Look, I'm sorry, that's an impeachment inquiry in search of a crime. That's not what impeachment is for. Nixon was Watergate. Clinton was Monica Lewinsky. Trump was Ukraine then January 6th. If we're moving into a world where we conduct impeachment inquiries simply to find a crime that's a poor place to be.

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I assure you, Merrick Garland is very independent.

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Yes, we got a break in May, but the surge that we see now was bound to happen. You have I'm sure heard me say dozens of times now that illegal immigration on our southern border reacts sharply and quickly to perceived changes in our enforcement policy. But as long as the underlying push factors persist the numbers are always going to revert back to their longer-term trend lines.

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